December 4, 2009
BtoB Online
Demandbase Professional for Publishers Debuts

December 1, 2009
DemandGen Report
Leading Demand Gen Solution Providers Connect To Form “The Marketing Cloud”

November, 2009
DestinationCRM
Climbing to New Heights of Lead Generation

November, 2009
Harvard Business Review
Paths to Revenue: Mid-Market CEOs Share Best Practices

October 12, 2009
DemandGen Report
Demandbase Adds Analytics To Provide Deeper Insights Into Lead Sources, Behavior

October 6, 2009
BtoB Online
Demandbase Enhances Customer Acquisition Solution

September, 2009
Business Week
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Demandbase In the News

Jason Stewart

Mr. Stewart leads demand generation programs for Demandbase and is a recognized thought leader in the B2B lead generation and lead management space. He founded and leads the Salesforce.com user group in Salesforce.com’s headquarters location (San Francisco) and was one of the first 500 people to complete the Salesforce.com Certified Administrator process. He has spent 10+ years in B2B telesales, demand generation, lead management and marketing operations with a variety of businesses including Maxager Technology, MarketLive, and Inference Corporation. Mr. Stewart has advised emerging software companies including Spoke and Kieden (acquired by Salesforce.com). He earned his BA in English from Rutgers University.

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Chris Golec

Mr. Golec is CEO of Demandbase – a provider of On Demand Software and Services to improve demand generation at B2B companies. Prior to founding the company in 2005, he co-founded Supplybase in the mid-90’s. Supplybase was a successful supply chain software company that created significant customer value before being acquired by i2 Technologies in 2000 as part of the largest software merger in history. Before entering the software industry, Mr. Golec spent the previous 10 years of his career with GM, DuPont, and GE serving in engineering, sales and marketing roles. He holds a B.S. in Chemical Engineering and an M.B.A.

8 Questions You Need To Ask When Buying a Marketing List

by Jason Stewart

Buying a marketing list can be a stressful process. With so many vendors out there, it is important to ask the right questions when you are making a decision. Here are 8 questions you should always ask when you are in the market for business contact data...

1. What makes your data unique?
There are many data providers out there, and many pull from common sources such as Dun & Bradstreet/Hoovers, Jigsaw or InfoUSA. It is important to ask what makes the data in the list you are considering unique, and be sure it is not compiled from sources you have already purchased from recently.

Each individual business contact record you purchase from Demandbase is unique. While Demandbase partners with leading data companies like the ones mentioned above (and is, in fact, the only company to partner with all of these providers), we also pull data from many smaller publications and data companies and play to the strengths of these disparate sources. Business contact records are built from the ground up, with data gaps from one source filled in with information from other partners and proprietary rules run against every contact to categorize them according to department, specialty, industry and more.

2. How often do you refresh your data?
It’s important to know how often your data provider adds names to their database, but it is perhaps even more important to know how often they remove names from their database and what steps they take to prevent “dead” names from being added back to the system. Don’t be impressed by claims of “tens of millions” of contacts unless you can verify that they are actually removing out-of-date information from their system in a timely manner.

Demandbase runs quarterly email campaigns to contacts in our database to both verify the validity of our business contacts as well as give these contacts the opportunity to opt out of being included in the Demandbase database. We removed more than 2 million out-of-date business contacts from our system during our last run.

3. How is your data priced? Is there a minimum purchase?
If you can get a per-contact price of less than $1 per contact (with email!), then you are doing very well – but if you are required to spend at least $5K then it might not be such a good deal. The dirty little secret of many data providers is the minimum purchase size. After you run the parameters for your list, you will likely find that your actual list size falls beneath the requirements for minimum purchase which could lead to a “back-fill” of contacts that you may not have wanted (or needed) in the first place. Your response rates will drop because you are campaigning to prospects simply because you paid for their info, not because you selected them. And your reputation may suffer as well if you are marketing to people who are not in your sweet spot.

Demandbase has no minimum purchase requirements, and our filters are the most advanced in the industry. This means that lists purchased from Demandbase can be highly targeted based on the needs of our customers, and that there is no need to purchase leads you don’t need to fill some sort of arbitrary requirements. Contacts start at $2 (if you are buying 1 record), however volume discounts are awarded. 

4. How do you handle inaccurate data?
It makes no difference where you get your data, there is going to be some churn in the most accurate and highly marketed lists. Especially in a down economy. A key factor in dealing with your provider is to establish some sort of “return policy” in advance of the purchase. Ideally, the provider you use for your email campaigns will be able to differentiate between “hard” and “soft” bounces on the email campaigns you run, as proof of a “hard bounce” is a great basis for handling returns of inaccurate data.

If you send an email and it is not delivered, the recipient’s system typically sends back some sort of notification as to why. A “hard” bounce is when you receive a notification that the non-delivery is due to a permanent condition – like when the intended recipient is no longer at the company. A “soft” bounce is when the notification indicates the non-delivery was due to a temporary condition, such as a full mailbox or some sort of “out of office” situation.

Demandbase offers full credit back for all business contact data proven to be inaccurate as a result of a “hard bounce.” We then take your “hard bounce” information to help us maintain the accuracy of our database.

5. Do you remove or credit duplicates for contacts I already own?
A common frustration when purchasing lists is acquiring contacts you already have in your database. Make sure your data provider has some sort of system in place to remove or to credit back contacts you already own, and also (if you are a repeat customer) remove contacts you may have already purchased from them.

Demandbase tracks all your purchases so that you will never buy a contact from us more than once. We also work with you to credit back contacts that are already in your CRM.

For Salesforce.com customers the de-duplication process is automated, as the AppExchange version of Demandbase is set up in a tab inside of Salesforce.com and runs a duplicate check against your database before you buy.

6. How are your lists targeted? Do I need to pay for any filters to refine my list?
Some data providers charge you to run filters against their database that help you to target your list to your specific needs. For example, if you were looking for a list of marketing contacts at software companies you might be charged $300 to remove all non-software companies and another $300 to target the marketers. Data companies do this to try to discourage filters which might reduce the size of the list they are trying to sell you. Be aware of both the  costs associated with building a more targeted list, and the hidden costs to your reputation and response rates if you don’t filter your lists and market to contacts that are not in your “sweet spot.”

Demandbase actually has a white paper dedicated to this topic called Microtargeting for Macro Results (http://www.demandbase.com/white_papers.html, near the bottom of the page), and has the most advanced filters in the industry -- allowing you to zero in on contacts based on geography, industry, sub-industry, seniority (level of contact), department, departmental specialty and more. Each contact in the database is individually "scored" against your specific needs so you can build highly targeted lists without worrying about hidden “filter” charges or minimum purchase sizes for your lists -- and you can build and filter your list before you even talk to a sales rep.

Demandbase Professional subscription services help you to target even more closely, filtering your business contacts based on prospect companies and their activities when they visit your corporate website.

7. Do we own the data, or is this a list rental?
Data providers often rent out their subscriber lists for “one-time” mailings. You send them your creative, and they run the email campaign for you. They report back to you on opens and click-through, but the real measure of success is conversions – how many people filled out the form on the page that you sent them to in body of the email. This is the only way for you to capture the contact information of anyone in the list that you rented. Since it is a rental, the cost per lead is much lower than an outright purchase but you do not own the information and cannot market to them again without renting the list again. Make sure to clarify if the cost per lead is for a rental or for a list purchase.

Demandbase customers license all business contacts they purchase for multiple use.

8. Can I send email to the contacts I purchase from you? Are they “opt-in”?
If you are buying a list from a vendor and they claim that the entire list is “opt in” be very careful, and keep in mind that they have not “opted in” to receiving emails from you. Opt-in is the gold standard in email marketing, without a doubt -- but Can-Spam is the law and it does not cite “opt-in” as a requirement.

Email marketing is a very tricky business. I have received SPAM complaints from paying customers that I have spoken to on the phone, and I have closed business based on unsolicited (but legally “Can-Spam” compliant) emails. Be aware of the requirements for running email campaigns from your providers, as some may require you to be able to prove “opt-in” on every email you send while others simply require you to comply with the law. Agree on a policy internally that will both preserve your reputation, but also allow you to grow your brand and pipeline through the use of email. And consider paying extra for a dedicated IP address to handle your mailings, because if you are sharing email servers with other companies that do not observe the letter of the law as closely as you do, your deliverability numbers might suffer as a result of their bad practices.

Demandbase contacts include email addresses. Our contacts have agreements in place with our providers allowing for the distribution of their contact information, and Demandbase runs quarterly email campaigns to all contacts in our database inviting them to “opt-out” of being included in the Demandbase database.

Bonus Question: Do you carry data from companies outside the United States?
Accurate international business contact information is a very hard commodity to find, so if you find a vendor who has good international data you should keep them in your rolodex for when you might need them. Be very careful when purchasing international business contacts, and be sure to ask all of the right questions regarding freshness of the data, returns, and so on. There simply aren’t as many reputable providers of international data as there are those focused on the United States market, so you need to be cautious.

Demandbase focuses on United States businesses with revenues of $1M or more. We plan on slowly expanding into international business contacts when we identify and qualify reputable, accurate partners in the international business contact data space.

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You can create an account to try Demandbase free by clicking here. After you register, you will be prompted to tell us about your target markets, and there will be $20 waiting for you in your shopping cart to test drive for first contacts on us.

Needy Sales People

by Jason Stewart

I was talking to an experienced marketing executive yesterday about the relationship between sales and marketing, and I realized that most of the best salespeople I have worked with in the past have shared a common characteristic.

They were all a little bit needy.

One of the hardest lessons that I have ever learned in my professional career is that most of the time you will never, ever get what you want (or need) unless you ask for it. And we have all worked with people who are always asking us for things. Not passing the buck, necessarily, but people who are not shy about asking for help if it will save them some time and effort. Sometimes we can help them, and sometimes we can't. The bottom line, though, is that we would not have helped them if they didn't ask.

This is a lesson that the best salespeople learn early and apply often.

Have you ever had a salesperson who knows the products backwards and forwards, and was able to answer ever question and squash every objection -- but had trouble closing the deal?  Was it because they thought they deserved the deal? That they should get the commitment without explicitly asking for it? How much time did they spend waiting for their prospects to "come around"?

Maybe they simply didn't know how to ask for what they wanted. Maybe they need to get a little bit needy.

Competitive Marketing Intelligence

by Jason Stewart

Have you ever wanted to be alerted when there are changes to a web page, but there is no RSS feed on the page? A post on the Google Reader blog late last month shows you how you can keep tabs on your favorite non-blogs or "feedless" websites (or spy on your competitors) using the Google Reader tool. Check out the post, Follow Changes to Any Website.

On a similar topic, I got an invitation to what sounds like a fascinating webinar from the folks at MarketingProfs. You have to be a member, but if you are it called Go Beyond Google: How to Gather Free Competitive Intelligence.

B2B Marketing Content From Dreamforce

by Jason Stewart

A friend alerted me to the fact that all of the breakout sessions from Salesforce.com's Dreamforce event are now up for viewing on Youtube. Haven't heard much about through "official" SFDC channels, so thought I would share.

I was involved with two sessions:

Search Engine Marketing Junkies
Learn from a panel of B2B search engine marketing junkies how to take your search marketing to the next level, including SEM tips and tricks, landing page strategies, Web site analytics, and more. Speakers: Sean Whiteley, salesforce.com; Howard Brown, Demand Results, LLC; Jason Stewart, Demandbase; Terry Whalen, CPC Search and Lauren Vacarrello from salesforce.com.

Advanced Campaign Management: Lead Nurturing and Campaign ROI
Learn more about salesforce.com's lead nurturing and campaign ROI functionality, and you'll walk away with practical tips on how to build automation and measure results to improve your marketing effectiveness. Featuring speakers John Kucera from Salesforce.com and Jason Stewart from Demandbase.

"Junkies" was a panel that jumped right into the discussion, and "Campaign Managment" featured John Kucera from Salesforce.com doing a demo of how to create a lead nurturing campaign in Salesforce.com without a marketing automation system. I jump in at the 15 minute mark to show how to implement and utilize the campaign influence functionality in Salesforce.com.

All 198 sessions can be found here. Lots of stellar discussion, regardless to whether you are a Salesforce.com customer or not.

The Irony of Using Social Media to Monitor Social Media

by Jason Stewart

I'm pulling together an email to go out to the people who visited our booth at the B2B Online Digital Edge "virtual" trade show last week. It was a really great event with some really good speakers, especially the keynote from David Meerman Scott (author of World Wide Rave and The New Rules of Marketing and PR). All of the talks are recorded and can still be accessed by going here and registering to enter the event.

Anyway, I thought I would share some of the best tweets I could find about the event so went to Twitter Search and typed in #b2bedge to see what I could find. After a few minutes I was struck by how many of the tweets were about social media, and justifying the use of social media as a marketing tool in B2B.

90% of the tweets seemed to be about tweeting. 

That's when I realized that one of the most enduring topics touched upon by BtoB marketing Twitterati is the perpetual need to justify their own tweeting. Hence, most of the tweets from the event included the phrase "social media" or were about ways to get started with (or justify the return on) a social network marketing strategy. 

Is social network marketing really the hottest topic in BtoB marketing right now? What about lead nurturing? What about email marketing? Web analytics? SEO? Event marketing?

Is Twitter all that people want to learn more about right now? Or does it just seem that way because that's what the people who are on Twitter are tweeting about?

David Meerman Scott spoke more about relinquishing control of your brand in general, and not being afraid to let people talk about you (or even provide a forum for them to do it) which seems so much more brave and important than simply creating a Facebook page or Twitter account and monitoring what people say about you. It seems like Twitter and Facebook are the trees that people are fixating on, while truly allowing your company and brand to be OUT THERE and approachable and unafraid to let people say whatever they want about you is the way to truly create a social marketing "forest."

10 B2B Demand Generation Strategies for 2010

by Jason Stewart

I did a dry run of our Wednesday (12/2/2009) webinar, Top 10 B2B Demand Generation Success Strategies for 2010 with Howard Sewell from Connect Direct this morning. I have to tell you that he has put together some outstanding recommendations and tips for BtoB companies in 2010. A recording will be made available if you can't join us live, but as the Q&A at the end of the webinar could be the best part of the discussion so you should join us if you can.

The full description and registration form is available here.

You'll get a copy of Howard's High-Tech Direct Marketing Handbook just for registering, a collection of more than 65 tips and techniques on demand generation strategy, offers, creative, media and more, compiled from CDI’s 15+ years of developing successful marketing strategies for B2B clients. Hope you can join us!

Dreamforce 2009: Thoughts From the Keynote

by Jason Stewart

Just a very quick report, from the "trenches" as it were, about the announcements revealed yesterday morning at the Dreamforce 2009 keynote speech, delivered to 10,000 people in Moscone center. Seriously, there were a lot of people there. Biggest Dreamforce ever, highlighted with some very well received improvements that will have significant impact on how the power users are doing their jobs every day.

Usability improvements were the key, as upgraded (and rebranded) sales and service functionality were unveiled as Service Cloud 2 and Sales Cloud 2. Cloud Scheduler (cross-platform calendering), one-screen report building (which is a departure from the multi-screen report wizard) and the official introduction of Salesforce for Twitter were all greeted with enthusiasm. On the service side there was also some knowledgebase and "crowdsourcing" functionality to help reps answer questions (or help your customers find answers themselves online) ... think Yahoo Answers managed out of your Salesforce.com instance, with the ability to create solutions for your knowledgebase from solutions provided by your customers.

These announcements were very well received, and Salesforce for Twitter really seems to be gaining some ground. For example, Marketo announced an integration with Salesforce for Twitter on November 16th looking to capitalize on information gathered from Tweets about your company (or even just the fact that you'll know which prospects are active in Social Media) as triggers for marketing campaigns. Maria Pergolino from Marketo (blog.marketo.com) even suggested attaching known Twitter users to a campaign dedicated to recording which of your prospects and customers are active in social media, and using tools like the "Campaign Influence Report" in Salesforce.com to see how many of your selling opportunities may have been influenced by Social Media. Good stuff!

The next BIG announcement was actually met with more of a luke-warm reception than the simple improvements to the usability of the product (or a super brief sneak peak into the new UI coming out next year)...after much hoopla and chest thumping we learned that the next big CLOUD would be the "Collaboration Cloud." Salesforce.com Chatter is here, a social networking tool for businesses, borne from the fact that we typically know more about the movie that our third cousin saw last night than we do about what our co-workers are doing. Real-time updates about what your co-workers are doing, alerts when content is updated or changed, alerts from your Apps and vendors if there are updates or changes to software you have installed, all powered for your company by Salesforce.com and the Force.com platform.

It should be interesting to see how this plays out, as the "Chatter" pulse on the floor of the event is actually quite subdued. One customer I spoke to expressed concerns about a "Chatter" feed getting so bogged down with noise that it could ultimately become distracting, while others were genuinely excited about the collaborative (and secure) potential of the product.

Another announcement coming today from a few Salesforce.com partners revolves around the missing link in the "Cloud" equation .. the Marketing Cloud. From the press release  ... "Leading marketing-oriented technology companies today announced the formation of the Marketing Cloud™, a set of open, interoperable and secure services that make internal marketing operations more efficient and external marketing programs more effective. Founded as an alliance between Alfresco, Demandbase, Hoovers (a D&B company), Marketo, Jigsaw, ON24 and PivotLink, the Marketing Cloud delivers the fastest, easiest and most cost-effective way for marketers to integrate data silos, automate processes, foster collaboration and develop actionable marketing insights."

The really exciting thing about the Marketing Cloud is that it is aspiring to be more than just an alliance of complementary Cloud-based marketing solutions, but also a community of like-minded B2B marketing professionals focused on sharing best practices and improving their craft. Check it out at www.marketing-cloud.com.

A Busy Week in the B2B Marketing Cloud

by Jason Stewart

Dreamforce, Salesforce.com's annual "global gathering" starts tomorrow - and Demandbase is going to be there. Complete details about how to find us, including some great B2B Marketing breakout sessions, can be found here:

Demandbase at Dreamforce 2009

And if you're a B2B marketer and you plan on being in San Francisco on Thursday night (11/19) join us at booth 204, or in the Marketing Cloud for the Marketing Party of the Year at Dreamforce 2009.

There will be continued coverage of the event all week. Here's a recap of last year's event:

Session Recording: Secrets to Email Campaign Success

Session Recording: Lead Management 101

Top Three Best Changes at Dreamforce 2008

Dreamforce 2008: Notes from the Keynote

Anatomy of a Marketing Automation Manager

Great post over at the LeadSloth blog....Why Are Marketing Automation Managers So Hard to Find?

With tight marketing budgets and marketers wearing more hats it's especially interesting to see a  marketing automation job description laid out like this. A great description to pull together your job requirements for the position that is opening up, or a great blueprint on what you need to learn how to do to make yourself more valuable. Great discussion in the comments area as well, especially about the science of marketing automation vs. the art, because while it is one thing to know how to launch a campaign and track the results, it is still another to be able to write the copy or create the offer that people will respond to.

Nice post, Jep!

Peripheral Vision and Windows 7

by Jason Stewart

Just got a great email from MarketingProfs - one of their "Get to the Point" emails called "Peripheral Vision."

"...if you let your vision get too category-specific, you might miss the fact that you're also competing with companies that offer products and services quite unlike your own."

It reminded me of another article I read recently at CrunchGear called How Microsoft Will Lift Us Out Of the IT Spending Dumps, talking about how the impending arrival of Windows 7 could single-handedly spark an IT spending frenzy.

"...a number of IT guys I know are genuinely excited about installing Windows 7 in their shops, guys for whom Vista didn’t even register. We’re about see an IT renaissance, and it will be driven by Microsoft."

True, a lot of companies will be spending money on Windows 7. And there will also be a lot of money spent on hardware and peripherals. But consider this...how much money will be left for other projects?

The bottom line is that when people ask you who your competitors are and you rattle off a few companies that do what you do, you are missing the point. Always keep in mind that what you are competing for when you market and sell your products or services is budget. And you are not strictly competing for that budget against your direct competitors - you are competing against all the projects that everyone in that department (or even across other departments) are campaigning for.

And in Q4 you might be competing against Windows 7.

You need to emphasize the benefits of your products and services to your customer, and focus on why you are the best move for their company at the highest level. Don't forget to talk big picture. Sell why they need this type pf project more than any other first, and then (and only then) talk about why you are better than the other guy.

Or how the ROI on your project could pay for that Windows 7 upgrade in Q1 2010.