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Demandbase In the News

Jason Stewart

Mr. Stewart leads demand generation programs for Demandbase and is a recognized thought leader in the B2B lead generation and lead management space. He founded and leads the Salesforce.com user group in Salesforce.com’s headquarters location (San Francisco) and was one of the first 500 people to complete the Salesforce.com Certified Administrator process. He has spent 10+ years in B2B telesales, demand generation, lead management and marketing operations with a variety of businesses including Maxager Technology, MarketLive, and Inference Corporation. Mr. Stewart has advised emerging software companies including Spoke and Kieden (acquired by Salesforce.com). He earned his BA in English from Rutgers University.

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Chris Golec

Mr. Golec is CEO of Demandbase – a provider of On Demand Software and Services to improve demand generation at B2B companies. Prior to founding the company in 2005, he co-founded Supplybase in the mid-90’s. Supplybase was a successful supply chain software company that created significant customer value before being acquired by i2 Technologies in 2000 as part of the largest software merger in history. Before entering the software industry, Mr. Golec spent the previous 10 years of his career with GM, DuPont, and GE serving in engineering, sales and marketing roles. He holds a B.S. in Chemical Engineering and an M.B.A.

8 Questions You Need To Ask When Buying a Marketing List

by Jason Stewart

Buying a marketing list can be a stressful process. With so many vendors out there, it is important to ask the right questions when you are making a decision. Here are 8 questions you should always ask when you are in the market for business contact data...

1. What makes your data unique?
There are many data providers out there, and many pull from common sources such as Dun & Bradstreet/Hoovers, Jigsaw or InfoUSA. It is important to ask what makes the data in the list you are considering unique, and be sure it is not compiled from sources you have already purchased from recently.

Each individual business contact record you purchase from Demandbase is unique. While Demandbase partners with leading data companies like the ones mentioned above (and is, in fact, the only company to partner with all of these providers), we also pull data from many smaller publications and data companies and play to the strengths of these disparate sources. Business contact records are built from the ground up, with data gaps from one source filled in with information from other partners and proprietary rules run against every contact to categorize them according to department, specialty, industry and more.

2. How often do you refresh your data?
It’s important to know how often your data provider adds names to their database, but it is perhaps even more important to know how often they remove names from their database and what steps they take to prevent “dead” names from being added back to the system. Don’t be impressed by claims of “tens of millions” of contacts unless you can verify that they are actually removing out-of-date information from their system in a timely manner.

Demandbase runs quarterly email campaigns to contacts in our database to both verify the validity of our business contacts as well as give these contacts the opportunity to opt out of being included in the Demandbase database. We removed more than 2 million out-of-date business contacts from our system during our last run.

3. How is your data priced? Is there a minimum purchase?
If you can get a per-contact price of less than $1 per contact (with email!), then you are doing very well – but if you are required to spend at least $5K then it might not be such a good deal. The dirty little secret of many data providers is the minimum purchase size. After you run the parameters for your list, you will likely find that your actual list size falls beneath the requirements for minimum purchase which could lead to a “back-fill” of contacts that you may not have wanted (or needed) in the first place. Your response rates will drop because you are campaigning to prospects simply because you paid for their info, not because you selected them. And your reputation may suffer as well if you are marketing to people who are not in your sweet spot.

Demandbase has no minimum purchase requirements, and our filters are the most advanced in the industry. This means that lists purchased from Demandbase can be highly targeted based on the needs of our customers, and that there is no need to purchase leads you don’t need to fill some sort of arbitrary requirements. Contacts start at $2 (if you are buying 1 record), however volume discounts are awarded. 

4. How do you handle inaccurate data?
It makes no difference where you get your data, there is going to be some churn in the most accurate and highly marketed lists. Especially in a down economy. A key factor in dealing with your provider is to establish some sort of “return policy” in advance of the purchase. Ideally, the provider you use for your email campaigns will be able to differentiate between “hard” and “soft” bounces on the email campaigns you run, as proof of a “hard bounce” is a great basis for handling returns of inaccurate data.

If you send an email and it is not delivered, the recipient’s system typically sends back some sort of notification as to why. A “hard” bounce is when you receive a notification that the non-delivery is due to a permanent condition – like when the intended recipient is no longer at the company. A “soft” bounce is when the notification indicates the non-delivery was due to a temporary condition, such as a full mailbox or some sort of “out of office” situation.

Demandbase offers full credit back for all business contact data proven to be inaccurate as a result of a “hard bounce.” We then take your “hard bounce” information to help us maintain the accuracy of our database.

5. Do you remove or credit duplicates for contacts I already own?
A common frustration when purchasing lists is acquiring contacts you already have in your database. Make sure your data provider has some sort of system in place to remove or to credit back contacts you already own, and also (if you are a repeat customer) remove contacts you may have already purchased from them.

Demandbase tracks all your purchases so that you will never buy a contact from us more than once. We also work with you to credit back contacts that are already in your CRM.

For Salesforce.com customers the de-duplication process is automated, as the AppExchange version of Demandbase is set up in a tab inside of Salesforce.com and runs a duplicate check against your database before you buy.

6. How are your lists targeted? Do I need to pay for any filters to refine my list?
Some data providers charge you to run filters against their database that help you to target your list to your specific needs. For example, if you were looking for a list of marketing contacts at software companies you might be charged $300 to remove all non-software companies and another $300 to target the marketers. Data companies do this to try to discourage filters which might reduce the size of the list they are trying to sell you. Be aware of both the  costs associated with building a more targeted list, and the hidden costs to your reputation and response rates if you don’t filter your lists and market to contacts that are not in your “sweet spot.”

Demandbase actually has a white paper dedicated to this topic called Microtargeting for Macro Results (http://www.demandbase.com/white_papers.html, near the bottom of the page), and has the most advanced filters in the industry -- allowing you to zero in on contacts based on geography, industry, sub-industry, seniority (level of contact), department, departmental specialty and more. Each contact in the database is individually "scored" against your specific needs so you can build highly targeted lists without worrying about hidden “filter” charges or minimum purchase sizes for your lists -- and you can build and filter your list before you even talk to a sales rep.

Demandbase Professional subscription services help you to target even more closely, filtering your business contacts based on prospect companies and their activities when they visit your corporate website.

7. Do we own the data, or is this a list rental?
Data providers often rent out their subscriber lists for “one-time” mailings. You send them your creative, and they run the email campaign for you. They report back to you on opens and click-through, but the real measure of success is conversions – how many people filled out the form on the page that you sent them to in body of the email. This is the only way for you to capture the contact information of anyone in the list that you rented. Since it is a rental, the cost per lead is much lower than an outright purchase but you do not own the information and cannot market to them again without renting the list again. Make sure to clarify if the cost per lead is for a rental or for a list purchase.

Demandbase customers license all business contacts they purchase for multiple use.

8. Can I send email to the contacts I purchase from you? Are they “opt-in”?
If you are buying a list from a vendor and they claim that the entire list is “opt in” be very careful, and keep in mind that they have not “opted in” to receiving emails from you. Opt-in is the gold standard in email marketing, without a doubt -- but Can-Spam is the law and it does not cite “opt-in” as a requirement.

Email marketing is a very tricky business. I have received SPAM complaints from paying customers that I have spoken to on the phone, and I have closed business based on unsolicited (but legally “Can-Spam” compliant) emails. Be aware of the requirements for running email campaigns from your providers, as some may require you to be able to prove “opt-in” on every email you send while others simply require you to comply with the law. Agree on a policy internally that will both preserve your reputation, but also allow you to grow your brand and pipeline through the use of email. And consider paying extra for a dedicated IP address to handle your mailings, because if you are sharing email servers with other companies that do not observe the letter of the law as closely as you do, your deliverability numbers might suffer as a result of their bad practices.

Demandbase contacts include email addresses. Our contacts have agreements in place with our providers allowing for the distribution of their contact information, and Demandbase runs quarterly email campaigns to all contacts in our database inviting them to “opt-out” of being included in the Demandbase database.

Bonus Question: Do you carry data from companies outside the United States?
Accurate international business contact information is a very hard commodity to find, so if you find a vendor who has good international data you should keep them in your rolodex for when you might need them. Be very careful when purchasing international business contacts, and be sure to ask all of the right questions regarding freshness of the data, returns, and so on. There simply aren’t as many reputable providers of international data as there are those focused on the United States market, so you need to be cautious.

Demandbase focuses on United States businesses with revenues of $1M or more. We plan on slowly expanding into international business contacts when we identify and qualify reputable, accurate partners in the international business contact data space.

Try Demandbase Free
You can create an account to try Demandbase free by clicking here. After you register, you will be prompted to tell us about your target markets, and there will be $20 waiting for you in your shopping cart to test drive for first contacts on us.

Anatomy of a Marketing Automation Manager

Great post over at the LeadSloth blog....Why Are Marketing Automation Managers So Hard to Find?

With tight marketing budgets and marketers wearing more hats it's especially interesting to see a  marketing automation job description laid out like this. A great description to pull together your job requirements for the position that is opening up, or a great blueprint on what you need to learn how to do to make yourself more valuable. Great discussion in the comments area as well, especially about the science of marketing automation vs. the art, because while it is one thing to know how to launch a campaign and track the results, it is still another to be able to write the copy or create the offer that people will respond to.

Nice post, Jep!

B2B Paid Search Webinar Today (July 29th)

If you enjoyed my last post, an interview with paid search expert Terry Whalen on paid search and B2B, you might want to join us for a webinar today, July 29th: 10 Secrets to Better B2B Paid Search Campaigns.

A recording will also be made available.

Here's the description:

If more than 90% of business buyers find the products or services they need through search, then why are B2B marketers finding it challenging to drive results in paid search campaigns?

The vast majority of paid search advertising through Google AdWords is focused on business to consumer (B2C). B2B companies rely on paid search to generate new leads, but B2B conversions are very different than a B2C company.

B2B companies are often simply hoping to capture a name to add to their marketing database so that they can begin the lead nurturing process, and sales cycles tend to be upwards of 12 months. ROI can take much longer to measure than in B2C, and you always need to preserve your brand.

Google is someplace you need to be, but managing your B2B Google AdWords campaigns can be very challenging.

Speakers Terry Whalen from CPC Search and Jason Stewart from Demandbase will share 10 helpful tips for managing your B2B Google Adwords campaigns, including:

• Update Your Campaigns for Quick Wins
• Integrate Google Adwords With Your CRM to Track ROI
• Content Match and B2B
• Find Those Keywords You Aren’t Thinking Of
• Analyzing the Value of Your Clicks … Even When They Don’t Convert

Terry Whalen is a partner at CPC Search, a full-service PPC management firm that optimizes PPC campaigns on behalf of its clients. Prior to running CPC Search, Terry led marketing initiatives at Citrix’s GoToMyPC, and he received his MBA from UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business.

Jason Stewart leads online marketing programs for Demandbase and is the lead blogger at Demandblog. Jason has more than 10 years of online marketing and B2B lead generation and management experience. He founded and leads the Salesforce.com user group in Salesforce.com’s headquarters location (San Francisco) and was one of the first 500 certified Salesforce.com Certified Administrators.

Register here.

Joint Webinar Next Week with Marketo

We have a webinar coming up next week, a joint presentation with Marketo's VP of Marketing Jon Miller. It's on Thursday, March 19th at 11AM Pacific, and the official title is Turn Inbound Traffic into Leads and Revenue.

Register here.

Sometimes I like to give a little bit more of a "behind the scenes" description of the content than the "official" description shares. On the surface, this looks like a pretty straightforward webinar sharing some best practices both on the lead generation side as well as the lead management/nurturing end -- the two sides of the coin. And that is not a bad thing! When we sat down with Jon to plan out the webinar, however, the idea was a lot simpler and the description only really hints at it ... since Marketo uses Demandbase, and Demandbase uses Marketo, why don't we share some background on how we use each others tools in our demand generation and lead nurturing programs?

So there you have it. Jon's going to be talking about Demandbase and I am going to talk about Marketo. Feel free to join us next week.

Click here to see the full description and register for the webinar.

Your Biggest Untapped Marketing Asset?

by Jason Stewart

Happy New Year everybody!

There was a line in yesterday's post by Jon Miller over at the blog Modern B2B Marketing (Unleash Your House Database with Lead Nurturing) that reminded me of a story. Jon said this about the typical B2B company's contact database...

"That database is a significant asset that gets undervalued at most companies. Think about it: if your average cost per new contact is even just $20 (a low assumption) and you have a modest database of 250,000 contacts, then your house database is a $5 million asset. Do you treat as such? How many other assets of that size do you have in your company?"

Once upon a time I worked in field marketing for a software company that was hard charging, spending lots of money and hiring like crazy. They were also about to implode (just like everybody else) because the time was 1999 and the bubble was about to burst. I got laid off, like lots of people did, and was working for another high-tech when that company asked me if I would like to come back to a much leaner version 2.0 of the company to run online marketing and manage a third party firm they had hired to work the phones generating appointments for their sales team. I took the job.

A few weeks after coming back, the CEO of the company asked me why I had returned. I'm sure he was hoping to hear about how I was extremely excited about the software, and the prospects for the company to pave the way in their space, and all of those other types of hyperbole. Needless to say, he was pretty shocked by my answer.

I told him the biggest reason was the database.

When I was there, the field marketing team was pretty large, and the management running the team was a huge proponent of the "if it is not in the CRM system than it does not exist" philosophy. I knew there were a lot of names in there, who had been touched and called regularly by a good team, and there were meticulous notes on all the interactions. It was a really great database that was going to make things much easier for me, right from the get-go.

That database was one of the company's most valuable assets, but he had never looked at it like that before.

How do you look at your house list? Is it an asset? And more importantly, with times being what they are, is it an untapped asset...?

Dreamforce 2008 Session Recording: Lead Management 101

The recordings are up!

Here is the session I did at Dreamforce on Monday, November 3rd: Lead Management 101

Dreamforce abstract: Do you understand your entire lead lifecycle? The experts at salesforce.com are here to help! This session features best practices for lead management, such as how to route leads to the right sales teams, build effective qualification and conversion processes, capitalize on workflow automation, and plenty more.

I spoke specifically about the differences between leads, accounts and contacts in Salesforce.com, lead scoring, landing pages and workflow rules.

Access the recording here.

Improving Campaign Relevance to Increase Response Rates

Demandbase CEO Chris Golec has written an article for www.destinationcrm.com called 5 Key Elements of Microtargeting...here's an excerpt:

"B2B marketers are increasingly adopting microtargeting to get superior results. AG Salesworks, a rapidly growing marketing services firm needed to boost the effectiveness of its client's sales and marketing programs. AG Saleworks knew that the greatest leverage would come from improving the relevancy and accuracy of the contact data it used in their campaigns. The company set out to improve the quality of the contacts in its marketing lists, and to segment the contacts based on their interests, behavior, response rates and demographic information."

Check it out here.

Curse You, Seth Godin

By Jason Stewart  - March 20, 2007

He's Done it Again, Making a Complex Idea Really Simple.

Well, honestly, it doesn't seem too complex...but then again if it were obvious wouldn't more people be doing it?

Read Seth Godin's post, The World's Worst Toaster, then take a look at your website. How many hoops do you ask people to jump through in order to get what they want? How many fields are in the form on your landing page? Does your landing page even have a form, or do they go from your landing page to another page with a form?

Just how many pages do they need to go through, and how many clicks are necessary to complete a relatively simple transaction, like buying something? Or downloading a white paper? Or signing up for a webinar?

The easier you make it for your prospects to complete a transaction, the more transactions they will complete.

Harvesting Those Responses ... continued

By Jason Stewart - November 20, 2007

No big post this week...Happy Thanksgiving! Just a link to the archived webcast I did with Andrew Gaffney from DemandGen Report last week.

It focused on best practices, tips and suggestions for how to use the information you collect after your marketing campaigns to both generate more opportunities and keep your house list in shape. You can access the recording here.

5 Things I Learned at the Sherpa Summit

By Jason Stewart  - November 14, 2007

Some Important Takeaways from the Marketing Sherpa Demand Generation Summit 2007

Here are 5 things I learned at the San Francisco Sherpa Summit on October 29th and 30th:

Strategically communicate with Sales to get what you want...
A no-brainer here, but always worth a few words. It's common knowledge that it can be hard to get sales to update their information, so be sure to meet with them regularly to clarify your targets and to educate them on  what you plan on doing with all that extra information you are asking them to  enter into your CRM system. If they understand very clearly how they will benefit by taking the extra 15 seconds when they are updating a record then you might be amazed at what begins to make it into your database.

That personal touch...
In B2B, more and more people are getting all the information  they need online. Background, pricing, features, benefits are all easily discovered on either your website or through other sources like analysts or even message boards. Previous Marketing Sherpa studies have indicated that 93% of your customer think they found you. When the rubber meets the road, though, it still takes a handshake to close the  deal. Long sales cycles and complex products mean your prospects still require a lot of TLC.

Google's PPC throne overseas is not as stable as it is here...
Do your research if you are planning on PPC advertising  overseas. Google is the 800 lb gorilla, but other engines perform very well overseas. Yahoo does extremely well  in Asia, for example. This is something I noticed when I was at Maxager Technology. The vast majority of my PPC leads came from Google, but the Yahoo brought in more leads for my Asian team and the quality was typically a little better than Google (pound for pound).

30 minutes or less...
If you don't call that web lead within 30 minutes of receiving it, you will probably never, ever get them on the phone. Ever. If you aren't trying to call them within 2-3 hours don't even bother.

It takes money  to get to the C level...
One speaker shared the results of a very successful (but very expensive) series of campaigns designed to get to the C-Level decision makers at a few key accounts. Email and telemarketing don't work (obviously) so these guys revived a benchmarking-type guide they had stopped producing several years earlier because of costs, gave it a face lift and a hard-back binding and sent it to their prospects. This is a fantastic strategy, but was likely a budgetary impossibility for many of the attendees in the audience.

This is a pet peeve of mine...not so much at Sherpa but definitely at other events I attend. The "big name" speaker that is meant to draw people to the show, but ends up sharing case studies so far  from my own reality (and most of the audience I bet) that they are completely useless. Email A/B testing a "small sample" from his house list of a 100,000(!) names, or dropping $30K on the creative before it goes out the door...not helpful!

Show me a presentation on how to get to the C-Level on a shoestring budget and I am in the front row.